Categoria: Tratado 36 (I,5)
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Tratado 36 (I, 5) – Se a felicidade cresce com o tempo
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O tratado mantendo a mesma concepção de felicidade do tratado anterior (Eneada-I-4), complementa-o. A questão relevante agora é uma questão ética antiga: o tempo faz crescer a felicidade? Na época de Plotino, esta dificuldade opõe desde séculos os aristotélicos aos estoicos e aos epicuristas. Aristóteles associa com efeito felicidade e temporalidade, posto que admite que…
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Tratado 36,1 (I, 5,1) – Introdução (MacKenna)
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1. Is it possible to think that Happiness increases with Time, Happiness which is always taken as a present thing? The memory of former felicity may surely be ruled out of count, for Happiness is not a thing of words, but a definite condition which must be actually present like the very fact and act…
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Tratado 36,2 (I, 5,2) – Mais vivemos, mais felicidade (MacKenna)
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2. It may be objected that our will towards living and towards expressive activity is constant, and that each attainment of such expression is an increase in Happiness. But in the first place, by this reckoning every to-morrow’s well-being will be greater than to-day’s, every later instalment successively larger that an earlier; at once time…
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Tratado 36,3 (I, 5,3) – Visão prolongada de certos objetos, mais felicidade (MacKenna)
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3. Yes, but if the well-being has lasted a long time, if that present spectacle has been a longer time before the eyes? If in the greater length of time the man has seen more deeply, time has certainly done something for him, but if all the process has brought him no further vision, then…
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Tratado 36,4 (I, 5,4) – Visão prolongada, maior desfrute (MacKenna)
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4. Still the one life has known pleasure longer than the other? But pleasure cannot be fairly reckoned in with Happiness- unless indeed by pleasure is meant the unhindered Act (of the true man), in which case this pleasure is simply our “Happiness.” And even pleasure, though it exist continuously, has never anything but the…
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Tratado 36,5 (I, 5,5) – Felicidade passageira x vida feliz (MacKenna)
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5. We are asked to believe, then, it will be objected, that if one man has been happy from first to last, another only at the last, and a third, beginning with happiness, has lost it, their shares are equal? This is straying from the question: we were comparing the happy among themselves: now we…
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Tratado 36,6 (I, 5,6) – Dores prolongadas, infelicidade; bens prolongados, felicidade (MacKenna)
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6. Well, but take the unhappy man: must not increase of time bring an increase of his unhappiness? Do not all troubles- long-lasting pains, sorrows, and everything of that type- yield a greater sum of misery in the longer time? And if thus in misery the evil is augmented by time why should not time…
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Tratado 36,7 (I, 5,7) – Porque adicionamos o passado ao presente? (MacKenna)
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7. But if we are to consider only the present and may not call in the past to make the total, why do we not reckon so in the case of time itself, where, in fact, we do not hesitate to add the past to the present and call the total greater? Why not suppose…
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Tratado 36,8 (I, 5,8) – Lembrança prolonga a felicidade? (MacKenna)
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8. It may be urged that the actual presence of past experiences, kept present by Memory, gives the advantage to the man of the longer felicity. But, Memory of what sort of experiences? Memory either of formerly attained wisdom and virtue- in which case we have a better man and the argument from memory is…
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Tratado 36,10 (I, 5,10) – Mais virtude com mais tempo (MacKenna)
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10. But, it may be said, length of time produces an abundance of good actions missed by the man whose attainment of the happy state is recent- if indeed we can think at all of a state of happiness where good actions have been few. Now to make multiplicity, whether in time or in action,…
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Tratado 36,9 (I, 5,9) – Lembranças de coisas boas e felicidade (MacKenna)
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9. But is there not something to be said for the memory of the various forms of beauty? That is the resource of a man whose life is without beauty in the present, so that, for lack of it now, he grasps at the memory of what has been.
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Tratado 36 (I, 5) — Felicidade e extensão do tempo (MacKenna)
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The First Ennead Fifth Tractate. HAPPINESS AND EXTENSION OF TIME.
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Tratado 36 (I, 5) — SOBRE SI LA FELICIDAD SE ACRECIENTA CON EL TIEMPO (Igal)
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1. La felicidad ¿se acrecienta con el tiempo pese a que la felicidad es concebida siempre en dependencia del presente? Además el recuerdo de haber sido feliz nada puede influir, y el ser feliz no consiste en decirlo, sino en estar en una cierta disposición. Ahora bien, la disposición, como también la actividad de la…
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Tratado 36 (I, 5) – LE BONHEUR S’ACCROÎT-IL AVEC LE TEMPS ? (Bouillet)
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Ce livre est le complément du précédent. L’auteur y pose et y résout dix questions qui sont destinées à éclaircir quelques-uns des points traités dans le livre IV. (§ I) Le bonheur ne s’accroît pas avec le temps parce qu’il consiste dans le présent, c’est-à-dire dans la contemplation de l’intelligible, contemplation qui n’admet point la…
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Tratado 36 (I, 5) — Does Happiness Increase With Time? (Guthrie)
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FIRST ENNEAD, BOOK FIVE. Does Happiness Increase With Time? HAPPINESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DURATION OF TIME. 1. Does happiness increase with duration of time? No: for the feeling of happiness exists only in the present. The memory of past happiness could not add anything to happiness itself. Happiness is not a word, but…
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Tratado 36 (I, 5) – Le bonheur s’accroît-il avec le temps ? (Bréhier)
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Ennéade I, 5 (36) – Le bonheur s’accroît-il avec le temps ? 1. Le bonheur s’accroît-il avec le temps ? Le bonheur est à chaque instant saisi dans le présent ; le souvenir du bonheur ne fait rien au bonheur ; le bonheur n’est pas une chose qui se développe, comme un discours, mais un…
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Plotino – Tratado 36,10 (I, 5, 10) — Nona dificuldade
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10. —Pero la prolongación del tiempo ocasiona numerosas acciones nobles, en las que no tiene parte el que es feliz por poco tiempo, si hay que llamar feliz en absoluto a quien no lo es gracias a que sus acciones nobles son muchas. —Pero decir que la felicidad resulta de multitud de tiempos y de…
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Plotino – Tratado 36,9 (I, 5, 9) — Oitava dificuldade
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9. —Pero si el recuerdo fuera de las cosas excelentes, ¿cómo negar que, en este caso, tendría sentido? —Pero eso es propio de un hombre que, en la actualidad, está falto de las cosas excelentes y que, por no tenerlas ahora, busca el recuerdo de las pasadas. [9] Si l’on se rappelait des actes vertueux,…
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Plotino – Tratado 36,8 (I, 5, 8) — Sétima dificuldade
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8. Y si alguno dijera que el recuerdo [mneme] de las cosas pasadas, perviviendo en el presente, incrementa la dicha de quien haya vivido en la felicidad [eudaimonia] durante más tiempo [Chronos], ¿qué querría decir con lo del recuerdo [mneme]? Porque o es el recuerdo de la sabiduría [phronesis] habida anteriormente, de modo que lo…
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Plotino – Tratado 36,7 (I, 5, 7) — Sexta dificuldade
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7. —Pero si no hay que tener en cuenta más que lo presenté sin sumarlo con lo pasado, ¿por qué no hacemos lo mismo en el caso del tiempo, sino que, sumando el pasado con el presente, decimos que es mayor? ¿Por qué, pues, no hemos de decir que la felicidad es tan grande como…