Categoria: Primeiro Alcibíades
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Chambry: Alcibiade I 127c-135e — Conhece-te a ti mesmo
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ALCIBIADE XXIII. — Par les dieux, Socrate, je ne sais plus moi-même ce que je dis et je cours grand risque d’être depuis longtemps, sans m’en apercevoir, dans le plus honteux état. SOCRATE Ne perds pas courage. Si tu t’étais aperçu de ton état à l’âge de cinquante ans, tu aurais de la peine à…
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Jowett: ALC1 124a-127d — Em que consiste a arte política?
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Ah, my remarkable friend, listen to me and the Delphic motto, (124b) “Know thyself” ; for these people are our competitors, not those whom you think ; and there is nothing that will give us ascendancy over them save only pains and skill. If you are found wanting in these, you will be found wanting…
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Jowett: ALC1 127d-135b — Como remediar ao mal que sofre a política?
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Alcibiades : Well, by Heaven, Socrates, I do not even know what I mean myself, and I fear that for some time past I have lived unawares in a disgraceful condition. Socrates : But you must take heart. For had you perceived your plight (127e) at fifty, it would be hard for you to take…
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Jowett: ALC1 130a-132b — O homem é sua alma
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Socrates : Now, here is a remark from which no one, I think, can dissent. Alcibiades : What is it ? Socrates : That man must be one of three things. Alcibiades : What things ? Socrates : Soul, body, or both together as one whole. Alcibiades : Very well. Socrates : But yet we…
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Jowett: ALC1 132b-135b — Interpretação do «Conhece-te a ti mesmo»
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Alcibiades : Your advice seems to me good, Socrates ; but try to explain in what way we can take pains over ourselves. Socrates : Well, we have made one step in advance ; for there is a pretty fair agreement now as to what we are, whereas we were afraid we might fail of…
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Jowett: ALC1 135b-135e — Epílogo
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Socrates : Then it is not despotic power, my admirable Alcibiades, that you ought to secure either to yourself or to the state, if you would be happy, but virtue. Alcibiades : That is true. Socrates : And before getting virtue, to be governed by a superior is better than to govern, for a man…
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Chambry: Alcibiade I 103a-104e — Prólogo
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SOCRATE I. — Fils de Clinias, tu es sans doute surpris qu’ayant été ton premier amoureux, je sois le seul qui ne te quitte pas, quand les autres ont cessé de t’aimer, et que, tandis qu’ils t’agaçaient de leurs entretiens, moi je ne t’aie pas même adressé la parole pendant tant d’années. Et la cause…
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Chambry: Alcibiade I 104e-119a — O Justo
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SOCRATE Je parle donc. Si embarrassant qu’il soit pour un amoureux d’entreprendre un homme qui rebute ses amants, il me faut pourtant oser exprimer ma pensée. Moi-même, Alcibiade, si je te voyais satisfait des avantages que je viens d’énumérer et déterminé à t’en contenter toute ta vie, il y a longtemps que j’aurais renoncé à…
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Chambry: Alcibiade I 109c-116e — O Justo
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SOCRATE Applique-toi donc et tâche de définir le sens de ce mieux dans le fait d’être en paix ou en guerre avec les peuples avec lesquels il faut l’être. ALCIBIADE J’ai beau m’appliquer, je n’arrive pas à le découvrir. SOCRATE Quoi ! tu ne sais même pas, quand nous faisons la guerre, ce que nous…
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Chambry: Alcibiade I 116e-119a — Ignorância
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ALCIBIADE Ah ! par les dieux, Socrate, je ne sais plus ce que je dis et je crois vraiment que j’ai perdu la tête ; car selon que tu m’interroges, je suis tantôt d’un avis, tantôt de l’autre. SOCRATE Et cet état où tu te trouves, tu ignores, cher ami, d’où il provient ? ALCIBIADE…
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Chambry: Alcibiade I 119a-127c — Considerações sobre política
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SOCRATE Laissons cela, et revenons à toi : quels sont tes projets ? Veux-tu rester dans l’état où tu es à présent ou prendre un peu soin de toi ? ALCIBIADE XV. — Nous en parlerons ensemble, Socrate. Quant à ce que tu viens de dire, je l’entends bien et je suis d’accord avec toi.…
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Jowett: ALC1 119a-127d — Considerações gerais sobre a política
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Socrates : Very good : then what is your intention regarding yourself ? Will you remain as you are, or take some trouble ? (119b) Alcibiades : We must put our heads together, Socrates. And indeed, as soon as you speak, I take the point and agree. For the men who manage the city’s affairs,…
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ALC1 (104e-119a) — As ambições secretas de Alcibíades (Thomas Taylor)
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SOC. I must say it then: and though it is a hard task for any man to address the person whom he loves or admires, if that person be superior to flattery, yet I must adventure boldly to speak my mind. If, Alcibiades, I had observed you satisfied with those advantages of yours, which I…
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ALC1 (103a-104e) — Prólogo (Thomas Taylor)
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Socrates Son of Cliniast you wonder, I suppose, that I, who was the earliest of your admirers, now, when all the rest have forsaken you, am the only one who still retains unalterably the same sentiments; and yet, that for so many years I have never spoken so much as a word to you, whilst…
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ALC1 (106b-109c) — Interrogatório de Sócrates sobre a competência de Alcibíades (Thomas Taylor)
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SOC. Do you ask me, whether I am able to prove it to you in a long harangue, such a one as you are accustomed to hear? I have no abilities in that way. But yet I should be able, as I think, to prove to you, that those pretensions of mine are not vain,…
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Primeiro Alcibíades
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PRIMEIRO ALCIBÍADES Sobre a justiça. “Conhecer-se a si mesmo é o fim do homem, que consiste em conhecer-se a si mesmo enquanto alma”. “O homem é a alma” (130c-131a). A virtude é necessária tanto para o indivíduo como para a cidade. Citações “Aquele que serve o corpo serve o que é seu, não o…
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Chambry: Premier Alcibiade
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traduction d’Émile Chambry Premier Alcibiade (Sur la nature de l’homme) PERSONNAGES DU DIALOGUE : SOCRATE, ALCIBIADE
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Cousin: LE PREMIER ALCIBIADE (resumo)
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LE PREMIER ALCIBIADE traduction de Victor Cousin ARGUMENT PHILOSOPHIQUE. LE sujet de ce dialogue est en effet la nature humaine, ou la connaissance de soi-même, considérée comme le principe de toute perfection, de toute science, et particulièrement de la science politique. Platon, ou l’auteur quel qu’il soit de ce dialogue, n’arrive au vrai sujet, la…
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Jowett: Alcibiades I
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Introdução de Benjamin Jowett a sua tradução INTRODUCTION. The First Alcibiades is a conversation between Socrates and Alcibiades. Socrates is represented in the character which he attributes to himself in the Apology of a know-nothing who detects the conceit of knowledge in others. The two have met already in the Protagoras and in the Symposium;…