Categoria: República X

c — Et cependant, dis-je, nous n’avons pas exposé ce que sont les récompenses les plus importantes que rapporte l’excellence, ni les prix qui sont proposés pour elle. Tu parles sans aucun doute d’un ordre de grandeur inimaginable, dit-il, si ces récompenses sont supérieures à celles que nous avons dites ! — Mais, dis-je, qu’est-ce…

Chambry: La République X 595a-608b — Poesia e Imitação

mar 5, 2015

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595 — Eh bien, dis-je, j’ai sans doute nombre de raisons, quand je pense à la cité, de considérer que nous l’avons fondée le plus correctement du monde, mais j’en ai surtout quand j’envisage la question de la création poé- tique. — Sur quel point en particulier ! dit-il. — Notre refus de tout ce…

Jowett: REP X 605c-608b — Funestos efeitos da tragédia e da comédia

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But we have not yet brought forward the heaviest count in our accusation : the power which poetry has of harming even the good (and there are very few who are not harmed), is surely an awful thing ? Yes, certainly, if the effect is what you say. Hear and judge : The best of…

Jowett: REP X 603b-605c — O poeta imitador

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And is this confined to the sight only, or does it extend to the hearing also, relating in fact to what we term poetry ? Probably the same would be true of poetry. Do not rely, I said, on a probability derived from the analogy of painting ; but let us examine further and see…

Jowett: REP X 602b-603b — Imitação e funções da alma

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Thus far, then, we are pretty well agreed that the imitator has no knowledge worth mentioning of what he imitates. Imitation is only a kind of play or sport, and the tragic poets, whether they write in iambic or in heroic verse, are imitators in the highest degree ? Very true. And now tell me,…

Jowett: REP X 601b-602b — Três espécies de arte

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Here is another point : The imitator or maker of the image knows nothing of true existence ; he knows appearances only. Am I not right ? Yes. Then let us have a clear understanding, and not be satisfied with half an explanation. Proceed. Of the painter we say that he will paint reins, and…

Jowett: REP X 597e-601b — Imitar sem saber: o pintor e o poeta

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Good, I said ; then you call him who is third in the descent from nature an imitator ? Certainly, he said. And the tragic poet is an imitator, and, therefore, like all other imitators, he is thrice removed from the king and from the truth ? That appears to be so. Then about the…

Jowett: REP X 614a-621d — Descida aos Infernos: o mito de Er

maio 21, 2013

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And yet, I said, all these are as nothing either in number or greatness in comparison with those other recompenses which await both just and unjust after death. And you ought to hear them, and then both just and unjust will have received from us a full payment of the debt which the argument owes…

Jowett: REP X 608c-614a — A imortalidade da alma

maio 21, 2013

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