Categoria: República X
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República X
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in República XExcertos da Introdução de Maria Helena da Rocha Pereira, à sua tradução da “República” O Livro X tem aparecido à maioria dos comentadores como um suplemento ou um apêndice1. A discussão tinha já terminado, com o contraste entre a vida do homem justo e a do injusto, e conclusão sobre a superioridade daquela – respondendo,…
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Jowett: REP X 595a-608b — Problemas da poesia e da imitação
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in República XOf the many excellences which I perceive in the order of our State, there is none which upon reflection pleases me better than the rule about poetry. To what do you refer ? To the rejection of imitative poetry, which certainly ought not to be received ; as I see far more clearly now that…
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Jowett: REP X 608c-614a — A imortalidade da alma
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in República XAnd yet no mention has been made of the greatest prizes and rewards which await virtue. What, are there any greater still ? If there are, they must be of an inconceivable greatness. Why, I said, what was ever great in a short time ? The whole period of threescore years and ten is surely…
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Jowett: REP X 614a-621d — Descida aos Infernos: o mito de Er
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in República XAnd yet, I said, all these are as nothing either in number or greatness in comparison with those other recompenses which await both just and unjust after death. And you ought to hear them, and then both just and unjust will have received from us a full payment of the debt which the argument owes…
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Jowett: REP X 597e-601b — Imitar sem saber: o pintor e o poeta
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in República XGood, I said ; then you call him who is third in the descent from nature an imitator ? Certainly, he said. And the tragic poet is an imitator, and, therefore, like all other imitators, he is thrice removed from the king and from the truth ? That appears to be so. Then about the…
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Jowett: REP X 601b-602b — Três espécies de arte
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in República XHere is another point : The imitator or maker of the image knows nothing of true existence ; he knows appearances only. Am I not right ? Yes. Then let us have a clear understanding, and not be satisfied with half an explanation. Proceed. Of the painter we say that he will paint reins, and…
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Jowett: REP X 602b-603b — Imitação e funções da alma
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in República XThus far, then, we are pretty well agreed that the imitator has no knowledge worth mentioning of what he imitates. Imitation is only a kind of play or sport, and the tragic poets, whether they write in iambic or in heroic verse, are imitators in the highest degree ? Very true. And now tell me,…
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Jowett: REP X 603b-605c — O poeta imitador
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in República XAnd is this confined to the sight only, or does it extend to the hearing also, relating in fact to what we term poetry ? Probably the same would be true of poetry. Do not rely, I said, on a probability derived from the analogy of painting ; but let us examine further and see…
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Jowett: REP X 605c-608b — Funestos efeitos da tragédia e da comédia
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in República XBut we have not yet brought forward the heaviest count in our accusation : the power which poetry has of harming even the good (and there are very few who are not harmed), is surely an awful thing ? Yes, certainly, if the effect is what you say. Hear and judge : The best of…
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Chambry: La République X 595a-608b — Poesia e Imitação
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in República X595 — Eh bien, dis-je, j’ai sans doute nombre de raisons, quand je pense à la cité, de considérer que nous l’avons fondée le plus correctement du monde, mais j’en ai surtout quand j’envisage la question de la création poé- tique. — Sur quel point en particulier ! dit-il. — Notre refus de tout ce…
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Chambry: La République X 608c-614a — Imortalidade da Alma
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in República Xc — Et cependant, dis-je, nous n’avons pas exposé ce que sont les récompenses les plus importantes que rapporte l’excellence, ni les prix qui sont proposés pour elle. Tu parles sans aucun doute d’un ordre de grandeur inimaginable, dit-il, si ces récompenses sont supérieures à celles que nous avons dites ! — Mais, dis-je, qu’est-ce…
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Chambry: La République X 614a-621d — Descida aos Infernos. O Mito de Er
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in República X— Pourtant ces choses-là, dis-je, ne sont rien, pour le nombre et pour la grandeur, en comparaison de celles qui attendent l’un et l’autre de nos personnages une fois qu’ils auront terminé leur vie. Et il faut entendre cela, si l’on veut que chacun d’eux ait reçu complètement ce que l’argument lui devait. — Voudrais-tu…